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		<title>Comment on Similar Educational Options, Yet Chemically Different by ChristineMM</title>
		<link>http://ncsw.homeschooljournal.net/2008/05/04/similar-educational-options-yet-chemically-different/#comment-962</link>
		<author>ChristineMM</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ncsw.homeschooljournal.net/2008/05/04/similar-educational-options-yet-chemically-different/#comment-962</guid>
		<description>Is there a place (blog, site, whatever) where I can read what some of the issues are?

I have homeschooled my children since birth. Public school at home is not a big thing in my state yet. I am active in HS networking in the inclusive group in my state. 

I have always wanted a clear delineation between the charter school at home, public school at home and "true homeschooling". However I have no idea what problems may have resulted so far from the public school at home or virtual charter school thing happening.

I have no clue of clashes between shall I call them 'traditional homeschoolers' and the public school at home group.

Anyhow other than joining the yahoogroup and trying to search the archives has this topic been summarized in past blog posts here or someplace else?

You have my curiosity up.

I linked through from my friend Judy's blog, Consent of the Governed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a place (blog, site, whatever) where I can read what some of the issues are?</p>
<p>I have homeschooled my children since birth. Public school at home is not a big thing in my state yet. I am active in HS networking in the inclusive group in my state. </p>
<p>I have always wanted a clear delineation between the charter school at home, public school at home and &#8220;true homeschooling&#8221;. However I have no idea what problems may have resulted so far from the public school at home or virtual charter school thing happening.</p>
<p>I have no clue of clashes between shall I call them &#8216;traditional homeschoolers&#8217; and the public school at home group.</p>
<p>Anyhow other than joining the yahoogroup and trying to search the archives has this topic been summarized in past blog posts here or someplace else?</p>
<p>You have my curiosity up.</p>
<p>I linked through from my friend Judy&#8217;s blog, Consent of the Governed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Definition Debate? by Freedom Is Not A Gift; Fighting For Educational Liberty &#124; Heart of the Matter Online</title>
		<link>http://ncsw.homeschooljournal.net/2008/01/13/the-definition-debate/#comment-958</link>
		<author>Freedom Is Not A Gift; Fighting For Educational Liberty &#124; Heart of the Matter Online</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ncsw.homeschooljournal.net/2008/01/13/the-definition-debate/#comment-958</guid>
		<description>[...] on the debate, and the National Charter School Watch Blog also shares thoughts on the importance of maintaining a distinction between government school at home programs and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] on the debate, and the National Charter School Watch Blog also shares thoughts on the importance of maintaining a distinction between government school at home programs and [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Similar Educational Options, Yet Chemically Different by Shannon</title>
		<link>http://ncsw.homeschooljournal.net/2008/05/04/similar-educational-options-yet-chemically-different/#comment-945</link>
		<author>Shannon</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 15:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ncsw.homeschooljournal.net/2008/05/04/similar-educational-options-yet-chemically-different/#comment-945</guid>
		<description>I love the idea of understanding and not unity.  I don't believe unity in the homeschooling cause will ever happen with these two groups.  It really is oil and water.  Here in Washington State the public school at home programs are popping up every day it seems.  I am a team member of a local support group and we have always not allowed advertising of these programs but discussion of them.  It has caused quite an emotional out burst of those who participate in them.  We have found that they are not necessarily homeschoolers by law anymore yet call themselves homeschoolers.  This is exactly where the line is drawn for me personally.  I feel it blurs the lines of public instruction and home base instruction.  I believe we have a common goal...the education of our children but other than that I am still trying to figure it out.

Thanks for your blog I will keep in touch with it.
Shannon
Mid-Columbia Washington</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the idea of understanding and not unity.  I don&#8217;t believe unity in the homeschooling cause will ever happen with these two groups.  It really is oil and water.  Here in Washington State the public school at home programs are popping up every day it seems.  I am a team member of a local support group and we have always not allowed advertising of these programs but discussion of them.  It has caused quite an emotional out burst of those who participate in them.  We have found that they are not necessarily homeschoolers by law anymore yet call themselves homeschoolers.  This is exactly where the line is drawn for me personally.  I feel it blurs the lines of public instruction and home base instruction.  I believe we have a common goal&#8230;the education of our children but other than that I am still trying to figure it out.</p>
<p>Thanks for your blog I will keep in touch with it.<br />
Shannon<br />
Mid-Columbia Washington</p>
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		<title>Comment on Alaska DEED Rationale: Resemblance = Regulations by Annette</title>
		<link>http://ncsw.homeschooljournal.net/2008/05/06/alaska-deed-rationale-resemblance-regulations/#comment-944</link>
		<author>Annette</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 21:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ncsw.homeschooljournal.net/2008/05/06/alaska-deed-rationale-resemblance-regulations/#comment-944</guid>
		<description>Lynn, 
When I mentioned the possibility of the DEED or legislators seeing a resemblance between those not in public school at home programs and those who are; I wasn't referring to the current confusion with statewide correspondence schools and in-district schools. I was talking about the DEED and legislators viewing the two groups of students through the eyes of parents like yourself. Your blog does read, "Homeschool2.0". You have stated yourself about how little difference there is between the two groups. I think for the most part, we tend to count on those in government to know the laws and keep them straight. That didn't happen this time. I sympathize with your situation that charter schools, also known as in-districts schools, were thrown in the proposed regulations. 

Your terminology is interesting to me. I understood that the term "affiliated homeschoolers" came into being some time ago in Alaska.  In past national online discussions, the topic has come up as to what homeschool parents could call themselves in light of the fact that there were some public school at home parents who call themselves "homeschoolers".  The adjective independent was thrown out there. There are times when I will employ that adjective in front of homeschooling so as there won't be any confusion about who I'm writing about. You use the term "unaffiliated" to describe the parents I would call independent. Interesting that there seems to have been a general acceptance for the term "affiliated homeschoolers" and that it has evolved into an antonym for independent homeschoolers by attaching a negative prefix.  This will be something that I will point out to parents in my state if we are ever having a discussion where parents are seeking clarity in terminology. I think this is something independent homeschool parents should consider if the balance in home-based education (in a given state) ever tips towards those in public school at home programs like your state. 

It seems to me, that in Alaska public school at home programs are the mainstream and independent homeschooling is in the minority. So if both are ever viewed by your state government as much the same type of education (as you seem to view it) and there  is a goal of fairness in mind....This would seem to me to be the current situation with the statewide correspondence schools and the in-district schools. 

In your earlier response, you wrote: "Alaska’s legislature has addressed homeschooling and exempted anyone taught at home by a parent or guardian from school attendance law and regulation."

I just want a clarification in your laws here. This statute currently does not apply to your family because your children are enrolled in a home-based charter school, correct? Alaska's homeschool statute is just something you are able to fall back on if your family decides to? Let me give you a parallel situation.  IF a public school teacher, not homeschooling her children, came onto a local homeschool list in my state and talked about what a wonderful homeschool law our state had,  AND in the same breath talked about how homeschooled students could benefit from becoming full-time public school at home students; thus making void by choice the wonderful homeschool statute; it would seem a little fishy to me. You haven't made reference to Alaska having a wonderful homeschool statute in these comments I know, but on your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynn,<br />
When I mentioned the possibility of the DEED or legislators seeing a resemblance between those not in public school at home programs and those who are; I wasn&#8217;t referring to the current confusion with statewide correspondence schools and in-district schools. I was talking about the DEED and legislators viewing the two groups of students through the eyes of parents like yourself. Your blog does read, &#8220;Homeschool2.0&#8243;. You have stated yourself about how little difference there is between the two groups. I think for the most part, we tend to count on those in government to know the laws and keep them straight. That didn&#8217;t happen this time. I sympathize with your situation that charter schools, also known as in-districts schools, were thrown in the proposed regulations. </p>
<p>Your terminology is interesting to me. I understood that the term &#8220;affiliated homeschoolers&#8221; came into being some time ago in Alaska.  In past national online discussions, the topic has come up as to what homeschool parents could call themselves in light of the fact that there were some public school at home parents who call themselves &#8220;homeschoolers&#8221;.  The adjective independent was thrown out there. There are times when I will employ that adjective in front of homeschooling so as there won&#8217;t be any confusion about who I&#8217;m writing about. You use the term &#8220;unaffiliated&#8221; to describe the parents I would call independent. Interesting that there seems to have been a general acceptance for the term &#8220;affiliated homeschoolers&#8221; and that it has evolved into an antonym for independent homeschoolers by attaching a negative prefix.  This will be something that I will point out to parents in my state if we are ever having a discussion where parents are seeking clarity in terminology. I think this is something independent homeschool parents should consider if the balance in home-based education (in a given state) ever tips towards those in public school at home programs like your state. </p>
<p>It seems to me, that in Alaska public school at home programs are the mainstream and independent homeschooling is in the minority. So if both are ever viewed by your state government as much the same type of education (as you seem to view it) and there  is a goal of fairness in mind&#8230;.This would seem to me to be the current situation with the statewide correspondence schools and the in-district schools. </p>
<p>In your earlier response, you wrote: &#8220;Alaska’s legislature has addressed homeschooling and exempted anyone taught at home by a parent or guardian from school attendance law and regulation.&#8221;</p>
<p>I just want a clarification in your laws here. This statute currently does not apply to your family because your children are enrolled in a home-based charter school, correct? Alaska&#8217;s homeschool statute is just something you are able to fall back on if your family decides to? Let me give you a parallel situation.  IF a public school teacher, not homeschooling her children, came onto a local homeschool list in my state and talked about what a wonderful homeschool law our state had,  AND in the same breath talked about how homeschooled students could benefit from becoming full-time public school at home students; thus making void by choice the wonderful homeschool statute; it would seem a little fishy to me. You haven&#8217;t made reference to Alaska having a wonderful homeschool statute in these comments I know, but on your blog.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Alaska DEED Rationale: Resemblance = Regulations by Lynn</title>
		<link>http://ncsw.homeschooljournal.net/2008/05/06/alaska-deed-rationale-resemblance-regulations/#comment-943</link>
		<author>Lynn</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 00:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ncsw.homeschooljournal.net/2008/05/06/alaska-deed-rationale-resemblance-regulations/#comment-943</guid>
		<description>As a charter school we have many exemptions from public school regulations granted to us in statute. That is the main point of our disagreement with DEED. The proposed regs infringe on local control and charter school statute. Yet, we don't consider the folks at DEED to be our adversaries or enemies. All of us are trying to work through what are new delivery systems of education and maintain integrity and responsible use of public money. We do not think these regs will pass as written and even if they do we are confident that, eventually, the legislature will agree with us. It could be a long process but that's ok. 'Tis the nature of representative government.

No, I am not saying we shouldn't pay attention. What I am saying is that it would be unfathomable to think that DEED would regulate unaffiliated homeschoolers using the same reasoning they use with us. Unaffiliated homeschoolers do not have the resemblance to statewide correspondence schools that DEED says they see in in-district programs.

Alaska's homeschool statute is not forever secure. No statute is. However, in a state with a small population like ours where politics is a favorite pastime it is not in danger. The state has a very friendly attitude toward homeschoolers. In Alaska, home education is a mainstream choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a charter school we have many exemptions from public school regulations granted to us in statute. That is the main point of our disagreement with DEED. The proposed regs infringe on local control and charter school statute. Yet, we don&#8217;t consider the folks at DEED to be our adversaries or enemies. All of us are trying to work through what are new delivery systems of education and maintain integrity and responsible use of public money. We do not think these regs will pass as written and even if they do we are confident that, eventually, the legislature will agree with us. It could be a long process but that&#8217;s ok. &#8216;Tis the nature of representative government.</p>
<p>No, I am not saying we shouldn&#8217;t pay attention. What I am saying is that it would be unfathomable to think that DEED would regulate unaffiliated homeschoolers using the same reasoning they use with us. Unaffiliated homeschoolers do not have the resemblance to statewide correspondence schools that DEED says they see in in-district programs.</p>
<p>Alaska&#8217;s homeschool statute is not forever secure. No statute is. However, in a state with a small population like ours where politics is a favorite pastime it is not in danger. The state has a very friendly attitude toward homeschoolers. In Alaska, home education is a mainstream choice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Alaska DEED Rationale: Resemblance = Regulations by Annette</title>
		<link>http://ncsw.homeschooljournal.net/2008/05/06/alaska-deed-rationale-resemblance-regulations/#comment-942</link>
		<author>Annette</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 20:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ncsw.homeschooljournal.net/2008/05/06/alaska-deed-rationale-resemblance-regulations/#comment-942</guid>
		<description>Thanks, Lynn. You are a charter school founder, with children enrolled in that charter school. They are not exempt from school attendance law nor public school regulations, correct? I get the impression from you (past discussions included) that Alaska's homeschool statute (one that you are not employing) is forever secure. Am I understanding you correctly that there is no need for vigilance on the part of homeschool parents in Alaska because their right to homeschool is secure?
Thanks again for your time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Lynn. You are a charter school founder, with children enrolled in that charter school. They are not exempt from school attendance law nor public school regulations, correct? I get the impression from you (past discussions included) that Alaska&#8217;s homeschool statute (one that you are not employing) is forever secure. Am I understanding you correctly that there is no need for vigilance on the part of homeschool parents in Alaska because their right to homeschool is secure?<br />
Thanks again for your time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Alaska DEED Rationale: Resemblance = Regulations by Lynn</title>
		<link>http://ncsw.homeschooljournal.net/2008/05/06/alaska-deed-rationale-resemblance-regulations/#comment-941</link>
		<author>Lynn</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 16:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ncsw.homeschooljournal.net/2008/05/06/alaska-deed-rationale-resemblance-regulations/#comment-941</guid>
		<description>Yes, it would be a stretch of imagination to think Alaska's DEED could apply similar reasoning to unaffiliated homeschoolers. Unlike many states, such as California, Alaska's legislature has addressed homeschooling and exempted anyone taught at home by a parent or guardian from school attendance law and regulation. Thus, DEED has no authority to regulate where there is no statute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it would be a stretch of imagination to think Alaska&#8217;s DEED could apply similar reasoning to unaffiliated homeschoolers. Unlike many states, such as California, Alaska&#8217;s legislature has addressed homeschooling and exempted anyone taught at home by a parent or guardian from school attendance law and regulation. Thus, DEED has no authority to regulate where there is no statute.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Similar Educational Options, Yet Chemically Different by Annette Asks Some Good Questions &#171; A Woman On Purpose</title>
		<link>http://ncsw.homeschooljournal.net/2008/05/04/similar-educational-options-yet-chemically-different/#comment-940</link>
		<author>Annette Asks Some Good Questions &#171; A Woman On Purpose</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 01:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ncsw.homeschooljournal.net/2008/05/04/similar-educational-options-yet-chemically-different/#comment-940</guid>
		<description>[...] on May 6, 2008. Thanks to Mary for pointing out this interesting post  at the National Charter School Watch [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] on May 6, 2008. Thanks to Mary for pointing out this interesting post  at the National Charter School Watch [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Similar Educational Options, Yet Chemically Different by Homeschooling and Public School at Home &#187; Similar Educational Options, Yet Chemically Different</title>
		<link>http://ncsw.homeschooljournal.net/2008/05/04/similar-educational-options-yet-chemically-different/#comment-939</link>
		<author>Homeschooling and Public School at Home &#187; Similar Educational Options, Yet Chemically Different</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 04:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ncsw.homeschooljournal.net/2008/05/04/similar-educational-options-yet-chemically-different/#comment-939</guid>
		<description>[...] the title of my commentary over at the NCSW blog. If it sounds of interest to you, click over and read.    Permalink [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] the title of my commentary over at the NCSW blog. If it sounds of interest to you, click over and read.    Permalink [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Definition Debate? by Annette</title>
		<link>http://ncsw.homeschooljournal.net/2008/01/13/the-definition-debate/#comment-937</link>
		<author>Annette</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ncsw.homeschooljournal.net/2008/01/13/the-definition-debate/#comment-937</guid>
		<description>Thank-you, Shawna for your comment here.  I do understand your confusion, and I wouldn't refer to anyone in that situation as "knuckle heads". :) In fact, one person who I spoke with did sign a statement upon enrolling her child and she was still confused about the choice she made. She signed a statement that she acknowledged that the virtual charter school was a public school and not homeschooling. Here's a similar situation in my state: parents sometimes form a non-approved private school instead of officially hsing. Technically, it is not homeschooling, but I know some parents are missing that technicality. It matters when their children want to do sports with the public schools. They are ineligible if enrolled in a private school, home-based or otherwise. Please remember the yahoogroup, your comments would be appreciated over there. 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NCSW/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank-you, Shawna for your comment here.  I do understand your confusion, and I wouldn&#8217;t refer to anyone in that situation as &#8220;knuckle heads&#8221;. <img src='http://ncsw.homeschooljournal.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> In fact, one person who I spoke with did sign a statement upon enrolling her child and she was still confused about the choice she made. She signed a statement that she acknowledged that the virtual charter school was a public school and not homeschooling. Here&#8217;s a similar situation in my state: parents sometimes form a non-approved private school instead of officially hsing. Technically, it is not homeschooling, but I know some parents are missing that technicality. It matters when their children want to do sports with the public schools. They are ineligible if enrolled in a private school, home-based or otherwise. Please remember the yahoogroup, your comments would be appreciated over there.<br />
<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NCSW/" rel="nofollow">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NCSW/</a></p>
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